Time: is Yahwey outside of time?

Even if time is part of the fabric of the universe which Yahwey created does that mean events don't happen one after another in His realm? In fact, only God can know absolute time since our time measuring devices are mutable.


Einstein's theory is proved - and it is bad news if you own a penthouse

Scientists use atomic clocks to show that time moves faster at altitude, even on Earth

The above article claims that Einstein's theory of relativity can be demonstrated with the aid of an atomic clock that supposedly keeps accurate time plus or minus one second every 3.7 billion years. The higher it is above sea level the faster this atomic clock runs, which supposedly proves that time runs slower in a bungalow than a penthouse. "For every foot above ground, for instance, the clocks showed that someone would age about 90 billionths of a second faster over a 79-year lifetime, Dr Chou said."


The first question that comes to my mind is, "how do you know the time keeping mechanism isn't impacted by gravity?" Einstein said gravity was merely acceleration. If you stand on a giant magnet in space where there is no gravity (with metal shoes on of course) and swing around a rope with a metal ball on the end, you may be able to experience it. Swinging the ball in a vertical rotation, the magnet you are standing on would always be pulling the metal ball downward. On the upswing the ball would decelerate and on the downswing the ball would accelerate. If you were also standing on a scale you would weigh more on the upswing, because in a free fall an object on a scale would weigh nothing. Wouldn't that mean gravity is actually caused by the upward deceleration? Now apply this mind experiment to atomic motion.


If atoms are held together with negatively charged electrons orbiting around positive protons, and if electrons are generally attracted to other atoms too, then the electron would be ever so slightly accellerated when the electron is in the portion of it's orbit that moves it toward the nearby massive object. Which would also mean that the atomic clock would more freely vibrate at higher altitudes because it would have less of this 'wobble'. Time as we define it is measured by the passing of events, whether it is an atomic vibration or the Sun's orbit around the earth. So the question remains, "do events really happen in God's realm?" 


Some think not because it implies a beginning for God when the first event occurred with Him. But the alternative makes no sense to us either; that is that everything happens at the same time for God.


Yahwey always speaks to us as if events do occur with Him. There are a few biblical exceptions which are often cited as 'proof' that Yahwey is beyond time and events. Here are some of them:

 

Jeremiah 1:5

LITV 5 I knew you before I formed you in the belly; and before you came out of the womb, I consecrated you. I appointed you a prophet to the nations.


Besides this verse being full of event statements that Yahwey says He is experiencing and causing throughout a time range, it could simply mean that sometime after conception Yahwey became familiar with Jeremiah's spirit. Or maybe He even designed Jeremiah's spirit.  

2 Peter 3:8

KJV 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

For sure this verse is about patience. Whether it addresses time travel or transendence I have my doubts.

 

Psalms 90:4

KJV 4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

 

That Yahwey has been alive for a long time does not make sense to us because He had no beginning. Time as measured by a passing of material events needs a creation made of matter that contains events. That does not mean Yahwey did nothing before He created the universe. One thing is for certain though, when He speaks to us about time He does it in a plain and straightforward way that we can easily understand. In the Genesis account of creation, time was already passing before the creation of the Sun, moon and stars. He created them to measure the time that He uses to build relationships with us.  

 

Genesis 1:14

EJ2000 14  And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for appointed times and for days and years;

The following excerpt is from gotquestions.org
Question: "What is God's relationship to time?"
Answer: ...

In a sense, the marking of time is irrelevant to God because He transcends it. Peter, in 2 Peter 3:8, cautioned his readers not to let this one critical fact escape their notice—that God’s perspective on time is far different from mankind’s (Psalm 102:1224-27). The Lord does not count time as we do. He is above and outside of the sphere of time. God sees all of eternity’s past and eternity’s future. The time that passes on earth is of no consequence from God’s timeless perspective. A second is no different from an eon; a billion years pass like seconds to the eternal God.
 
Maybe Yahwey does transcend 'time' whatever that means and some things are incomprehensible to us, but the above statement goes way too far, in my opinion. Time statements throughout the Bible are very important to Yahwey. And He eventually does 'lose His patience' (just as He planned to by the way) and He did take vengence on the old covenant holdouts. There are no unbelievers in the new covenant for God to take vengence on. Time travel and Einstein's theory of relativity are sometimes taken as facts. They both result in nonsense and would turn Yahwey's creation into chaos. See The Heavens Rule.

I was taught to, "keep it simple if you can." Yahwey chose the first century Christians to complete the foundation of the new creation before he destroyed His old covenant world.


Ephesians 1:4

ALT 4 just as He chose us in Him before [the] laying of the foundation of the world [or, before beginning of the creation of the universe], so that we shall be holy and unblemished [fig., without fault] before Him, in love,
 

Ephesians 1:4

ECB 4 exactly as he selected us in him ere the foundation of the cosmos, to be holy and unblemished in his sight in love:

 

Ephesians 1:4

CLV 4 according as He chooses us in Him before the disruption of the world, we to be holy and flawless in His sight,

 

The 490 years was up when the church was driven out of Jerusalem. The compliment of the nations would enter into the new covenant before the destruction of the old covenant. Paul used this Gentile portion of time as extra grace-time, to continue reaching out to his old covenant unbelieving brothers, who were still as doggedly in the flesh mode as Paul once was.


Matthew 18:21-22 (Peter's bretheren were sinning against their truth)

YLT 21 Then Peter having come near to him, said, `Sir, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him—till seven times?' 22 Jesus saith to him, `I do not say to thee till seven times, but till seventy times seven.

Romans 11:25

CLV 25 For I am not willing for you to be ignorant of this secret, brethren, lest you may be passing for prudent among yourselves, that callousness, in part, on Israel has come, until the complement of the nations may be entering."


Dodson:

πλήρωμα 
plērōma 
play'-ro-mah 
fullness, fulfillment, completion
(a) a fill, fullness; full complement; supply, patch, supplement, (b) fullness, filling, fulfillment, completion.

Paul still had time to save some more of the old covenant holdouts.


Romans 11:13-14

YLT 13 For to you I speak—to the nations—inasmuch as I am indeed an apostle of nations, my ministration I do glorify; 14 if by any means I shall arouse to jealousy mine own flesh, and shall save some of them,

James 5:19-20  (Jacob to the twelve tribes in covenant transition)

YLT 19 Brethren, if any among you may go astray from the truth, and any one may turn him back, 20 let him know that he who did turn back a sinner from the straying of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall cover a multitude of sins. 
 

This is the perfect world to grow up in. If it wasn't God would have thought of a better one!